RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
There is no escape from philosophy, Professor Ross.
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
Once again, this surely is a mereological problem: one of parts and wholes. Reduction of complex topics by isolating parts ("reduction" from the whole), is a highly successful, but any significant scientist shall recognise it does not represent the whole.
"Science without conscience is but the ruin of the soul." - François Rabelais, 1532, french humanist. Also inventor of the word "automata" (fr. automate). https://t.co/DgFudQx4Yz https://t.co/yZeCHp9xYa
I find profoundly surprising that neuroscience has grown so far away from, and even looks down on, philosophy. Data can be objetive, but we look at it through subjective lenses, carrying with them our own philosophy and biases.
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
"…there is no escape from philosophy. Every scientist takes a philosophical position, either tacitly or explicitly, whenever they…" do & report on their science
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
RT @ProfLaurenRoss: Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who care…
Enjoyable paper by Krakauer et al on "Neurosci needs behavior: Correcting a reductionist bias" 🧠 Great quote "Who cares what philosophers say about the differences between psych & neuro or reductionism in general? We are scientists, not philosophers!'
最近これを読んで、緻密な行動実験から入るべきかなぁと考えてたのもある https://t.co/LMyiIkUIpj
RT @encenatur: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/EDSi7ch62P
RT @encenatur: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/EDSi7ch62P
RT @encenatur: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/EDSi7ch62P
RT @encenatur: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/EDSi7ch62P
RT @encenatur: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/EDSi7ch62P
Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/EDSi7ch62P
Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/8x6KlKfH58
@EllaMgdo You would like this: https://t.co/vfH0DsQI2s
“…trying to understand perception by understanding neurons is like trying to understand a bird’s flight by studying only feathers. It just cannot be done” (Marr, 1982/2010) https://t.co/12ei82Ab6q
これ昔読んだ気がするけどわすれてた。モデルってゆうか説明レベルの話 https://t.co/9hP4SeDUqI
RT @Nima_CNS: اگر علاقه مندید در مورد محدودیت های نگرش تقلیل گرایانه و اهمیت مطالعۀ رفتار (به عنوان یک سطح از سیستم) در نوروساینس بیشتر بدو…
اگر علاقه مندید در مورد محدودیت های نگرش تقلیل گرایانه و اهمیت مطالعۀ رفتار (به عنوان یک سطح از سیستم) در نوروساینس بیشتر بدونید، مقالۀ زیر رو مطالعه کنید. https://t.co/7yB9MZWHc3
@elvandy1515 We certainly need to be aware of the ecological validity but it does not imply that the reductionism approach is less valuable. https://t.co/Qs5PPvzLW5
"...we argue that study of the neural implementation of behavior is best investigated after such behavioral work...we advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience ...behavioral work provides understanding, whereas neural interventions test causality"
Previous discussions have stated that it is necessary to conduct an independent and detailed study of the behavior before characterizing the neural basis of behavior. Such as in Krakauer et al., 2017. 12/🧵 https://t.co/KuNU4jgwF7
@SimianSeminar Well, you need one hell of a translator 😁. A system that can hold certain concepts of EP and CE might be better at building bridges. Then again, it’s a matter of philosophy. As it’s the case between two neuroscientists like Solms and LFB.
RT @alephlove: “Every scientist takes a philosophical position, either tacitly or explicitly, whenever they state that a result is ‘‘import…
RT @alephlove: “Every scientist takes a philosophical position, either tacitly or explicitly, whenever they state that a result is ‘‘import…
“Every scientist takes a philosophical position, either tacitly or explicitly, whenever they state that a result is ‘‘important,’’ ‘‘fundamental,’’ or ‘‘interesting.’’ This is because such assertions are always a judgment from outside of science.” https:/
@EikoFried Reminds me of this piece. https://t.co/VQ48NQ47eK
RT @alephlove: @DrWinarick Funny :) https://t.co/VQ48NQ47eK
@DrWinarick Funny :) https://t.co/VQ48NQ47eK
Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias https://t.co/1q5Je9OOFB
RT @dp_moriarity: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias by @blamlab, Ghazanfar, Gomez-Marin, Maclver, and @davidpoepp…
RT @JRBneuropsiq: "We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work…
Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias by @blamlab, Ghazanfar, Gomez-Marin, Maclver, and @davidpoeppel 👏👏👏 https://t.co/vpKr06JtUp https://t.co/a9VZIPhAXv
RT @JRBneuropsiq: "We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work…
RT @dlevenstein: Have wanted to actually read this one for a while, guess a while ends today https://t.co/SydtszltqT https://t.co/ac8LBK9a…
Have wanted to actually read this one for a while, guess a while ends today https://t.co/SydtszltqT https://t.co/ac8LBK9aQf
RT @JRBneuropsiq: "We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work…
RT @JRBneuropsiq: "We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work…
RT @JRBneuropsiq: "We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work…
RT @JRBneuropsiq: "We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work…
"We advocate a more pluralistic notion of neuroscience when it comes to the brain-behavior relationship: behavioral work provides understanding, whereas neural interventions test causality." By @behaviOrganisms et al https://t.co/GK2674TQvc
@jsauce7 @StearnsLab John Krakauer did a very provocative piece in Neuron a few years back which ruffled, quite rightly, a few feathers. https://t.co/wGRMLHHAfs
RT @Everdojuan: @edwinderaaij @TPMPodcast @JackAChew @physiojack @Ruuqie @AsafKlaf @PainSci @PainRevolution @pain_eddotcom Asaf's stand on…
@edwinderaaij @TPMPodcast @JackAChew @physiojack @Ruuqie @AsafKlaf @PainSci @PainRevolution @pain_eddotcom Asaf's stand on biology vs psychology...well...made me think about this great article: https://t.co/8XWc0B3cSi (listen also to: https://t.co/1yhaGKcG
https://t.co/SyxtctkIck “When scientists ask how does the brain generate behavior, they are in fact asking a question best approached through 'behavioral work' that allows behavior to be decomposed into separable modules and processing operations.” 🧠 #pape
Though seemingly scandalous, it's in line with what others have recently argued re. strengthening the links between neuroscience and behavior (e.g. @blamlab 's take https://t.co/8JfSDeOfWu) 5
@Laviniacarmen1 @ndosenbach @WiringTheBrain @malcolmmaciver @PessoaBrain Don’t get me started on mirror neurons hahahaha but see our paper where we discuss them https://t.co/Vlvn5JiCUv
@TonyZador @criticalneuro @gershbrain Agree, but neuroscience has its own challenges: "Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias" https://t.co/UCQzohF3ES "The Life of Behavior" https://t.co/6SHA2KrQMM "A clash of umwelts: Anthropomorphi
@BellecGuill @HumanBrainProj I attached a note on the gap in evol biol in the US brain initiative. To your interesting question as to what what such brain projects can deliver as a “product”, IDK but figuring out genet psychopathol factor, new treatments,
Just Read: Neuroscience Needs Behavior: Correcting a Reductionist Bias I love the argument the author makes about how we are uncomfortable with the incompleteness in our understanding of behavior. What does it really mean to understand a behavior? Link: ht
I wish authors also explained what are the best practices of parsing behavior for study? Such careful distinctions are challenging at more cognitive levels. https://t.co/PyoCBRZkRX
@JasonSynaptic @AllenNeuroLab @GreggNeuroLab It has, but thankfully NIMH has recently been pushing for a greater variety of tasks and novel paradigms. See also: https://t.co/APrkbUqvSL
RT @CarlosEAlvare17: @NicoleCRust @yael_niv Aren't behavior & evolution baked into neurosci? Re:behavior, see: https://t.co/FomRKZwKux (cit…
@NicoleCRust @yael_niv Aren't behavior & evolution baked into neurosci? Re:behavior, see: https://t.co/FomRKZwKux (cited 921X since 2017). Evolution? In final discussion at 2018 “State of the Brain” re:US BRAIN Initiative, organizers asked for missing
@FoldMani @Fabian_M_Renz @IrisVanRooij I don't think Iris refers to some kind of dualism, but rather that there are network properties that contribute to cognition but are outside of the brain, as in https://t.co/JT3zeHQjFe https://t.co/DlLYBrnupS but may
@WiringTheBrain @ProfLaurenRoss @ClaudeAGarcia Pluralistic explanations, like below, have ‘Evolution’ to cover histories as a causal graph (eg what’s encoded in DNA). https://t.co/t00fsAxww5 https://t.co/E2PF9Uqihn
RT @ColectivaMent1: Si te interesa indagar en detalles técnicos de esta forma “top-down” de estudiar el cerebro, y la importancia del compo…
Si te interesa indagar en detalles técnicos de esta forma “top-down” de estudiar el cerebro, y la importancia del comportamiento animal en neurociencias, te recomiendo el siguiente artículo de revisión: https://t.co/saZkDotwXD 14/14
RT @PessoaBrain: 3) See this excellent paper from where the list comes from: https://t.co/rIDNJxGTG0
"Behavioral work provides understanding, whereas neural interventions test causality" https://t.co/dJ6aXMnle1
Important point: Neuroscience needs behavior. https://t.co/9Bso2KZyUz
3) See this excellent paper from where the list comes from: https://t.co/rIDNJxGTG0
Neuroscience needs behavior: correcting a reductionist bias by @blamlab, @LifeofBehavior, @davidpoeppel + others 4/n https://t.co/5cubFkbnQy https://t.co/Yg3PzwvWSl
@NoahGuzman14 This paper is my go to in the context of neuro: https://t.co/xRw1WDs8C3. @ProfLaurenRoss does really good work on explanation and causation in bio, as well.
@ElDuvelle @gialdegheri @yael_niv This said, I do like this paper. Note that they never say studying behavior means neuroanatomy is "inessential". https://t.co/4xRFGI0uVQ
RT @BMtHart: @StePalminteri Quite the contrary: brain without behavior is bullshit. https://t.co/olRVfwKnZF @blamlab
@StePalminteri Quite the contrary: brain without behavior is bullshit. https://t.co/olRVfwKnZF @blamlab
@StePalminteri It is amazing that in such a great institute as yours, a program manager (!) has such a low level of understanding of the brain/behavior relation. Another good paper showing how one can understand behavior mechanistically without looking in
17. I am wondering if the idea that brains tell time is not an archetypical form of confusion between Marr’s implementation and algorithmic levels. Would love to hear @blamlab about that based on https://t.co/5IdUWVCSb6
@genetic_psych Historically, cognitive science has treated behavior as a secondary output of the brain. Fortunately neuroscience is starting to become more encompassing. https://t.co/8o1cmQqjJl
@DanAbrahams77 @ShakeyWaits This is also not just a historical accident, or a thing I alone think. This has been expressed in lots of ways at lots of times, most recently here, by serious (and non ecological, if that helps) people https://t.co/ZgfQKWSrRS
@KordingLab @dngman +1. Loved the approach. And your THM is naturally a perfectly valid one, and a reflection of the fact that integrating neuroscience data with other fields will be a long and winding road. You might have read this paper: https://t.co/7TM
@blamlab John Krakauer et al. (2017) "...there is no escape from philosophy. Every scientist takes a philosophical position, either tacitly or explicitly, whenever they state that a result is 'important', 'fundamental,' or 'interesting'...." https://t.co
The field of neuroscience needs to focus on a behavior-centric view of studying neural circuitry in order to gain a holistic understanding of the brain. A brain in a vat's a tad less cool. __ https://t.co/i3DQGmy8bm https://t.co/M1G8JSd7Wk
To read about this; https://t.co/rr8h92k3fQ
@jaime_faure Creo que están en ello. A veces me parece importante diferenciar la neurociencia cognitiva, de la neuropsicología (que sería cognitiva por definición). La NPS si tiene en cuenta la conducta o comportamiento y la neurociencia a veces la olvida
@gialdegheri @yael_niv Yup! I really liked this paper. https://t.co/GNCq9GMvr5
@ProfLaurenRoss This was discussed in Chapter 1 of my book (pinned tweet) but comes from https://t.co/rIDNJxGTG0
RT @cjrichier: @awaisaftab Not about explicitly about psychopathology per se, but this is one my favorite recent theory papers in neuroscie…
@awaisaftab Not about explicitly about psychopathology per se, but this is one my favorite recent theory papers in neuroscience: https://t.co/VIB2XCGJn5
RT @SustainHistory: #Neuroscience Needs #Behavior: Correcting a #Reductionist #Bias https://t.co/TLfhylMxph